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November 08, 1998 Eastern Europe is a promising market : Interview of Charles Brady, chairman of Amvescap. |
What
is your strategy in Europe?
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Charles Brady:
We have $260 billion under management, of which $50 bn are managed for international
clients, essentially in Europe. It's still a minority compared to our US business,
but it has more potential. We're celebrating our first ten years in France and
showing our continued commitment to the euro and the European Union by choosing
a French listing.
Why did you want to be listed in Continental Europe? Why did you choose Paris?
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Charles Brady:
Being listed in Europe is not only a marketing thing. We don't need to raise
capital but we need to have a listing in euro. We chose Paris as a proxy to
the Continental market because ultimately all European exchanges are electronic
and will be linked. Regulation will follow, it's not a problem. We have to get
listed in euro to be in the Euro top 500 companies, which we deserve to be because
all FT 100 companies are among the 500 largest European market capitalisations.
We're already number 73 in the Footsie and we've been ranked with the strongest
performance of all Footsie stocks in 1997.
What lessons did you learn from your French experience?
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Charles Brady:
Invesco France, our French subsidiary, has gathered FRF 10 billion of assets
under management. We have to be local. We haven't had local products from the
beginning. We learnt by experience and we learned it the hard way. But we've
understood. Now we've been here for ten years and we'll be here for more decades
in the future. A very important thing in our success has been to have a local
board of directors. They have insights in the market and they gave us the support
we needed to carry on.
What are your expectations for the European Asset management market?
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Charles Brady:
I'm very enthusiastic about the European mutual funds market, he said. The Continental
market has even more potential than the British market. I'm both optimistic
for retail and institutional activities. Retail is easier, because individuals
are shifting to more long term investments as they see interest rates falling
in traditional savings accounts, like in France where these rates are fixed
by the government. They realise that other investments don't reward them as
they used to and they look for more performance. We sell products that fit these
needs.
What are your perspectives in the institutional market?
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Charles Brady:
The institutional segment is more difficult. We're not to the point of building
up teams in that area. Many countries have difficulties to overcome their fears
of social unrest when they will reform their pension systems. Italy has not
implemented its reform and France has repealed it's first pension law. It will
be difficult but it will come. We've been saying that for the last ten years
and nothing has happened yet. But the more they wait the more their pension
systems will need to be reformed to face their growing liabilities.
Which are the most promising European markets?
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Charles Brady:
It's difficult to see which European country is the most promising market for
the moment. We have to wait for some reforms to be enacted. We are in the starting
blocks. We need to have local distribution. If you ask me within Europe which
markets are the most promising surprisingly it may be countries in Eastern Europe
like Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic or Romania. These countries don't have
to break their old pension systems and to overcome local resistance because
they simply don't have any sound pension system. They need to build up capital
in their countries and to fund their pension liabilities. So they look very
closely at the Chilean model and they will probably come with pension funds
reforms and systems sooner than Western Europe. Ultimately it will trigger a
reaction by Western European countries willing to catch up with their eastern
neighbours and to tackle their own pension systems.